In the absence
of Chris B whose choice the book had been, Richard agreed to open the
discussion. He was very positive about
it saying how much he had enjoyed it and what an excellent book he thought it
was. He liked the idea of comparing one’s
memory of things to a set of notes and he became intrigued when he realised
from reading this that MI5 would undoubtedly have a file on him due to an
interview he had many years ago. He found the nuances about how people make
decisions in difficult circumstances interesting and felt that GA asked a lot
of clever questions about how people lived and thought. What happened to his relatives in Germany before
and during the war also coloured his perception of what he felt to be one of
the best books he had read in the club.
By contrast
Rob had not enjoyed it and had only completed it by skim-reading the final
third. He felt it was poorly written, too dry and factual and didn’t really
tell Rob anything new about the Stasi and the GDR. For him the book felt
superficial and was too centered on a fundamentally boring man doing boring
things so that what informers recorded about him was also boring. Added to which GA seemed to be showing off
about his sexual exploits whilst in East berlin.
Steve had
another perspective. Although he hadn’t
finished the book, he was impressed by the colour which GA had injected into
the details of his life that Rob had found boring. However, as the book progressed he had
realised that GA was fundamentally a very privileged individual with is Alfa
Romeo and his regular flights home and he felt less able to empathise with his
outlook. He had also been looking
forward to insights into life in the GDR which didn’t materialise. Overall he thought that despite having good material
to work with, the approach was probably too journalistic.
Chris W on
the other had also really enjoyed this book because of his own
experiences. He had lived in Germany
when he was 18 and visited East Berlin at the time. He was aware that there was a bunker
containing nuclear missiles about 4 miles away from where he was living and was
spooked by going to see the border fence and watchtowers nearby. He went on a bus tour of East Berlin at the
time and all this gave him a real interest in the book. It did lack excitement and was drier history,
but he was intrigued by much, such as the way that people didn’t seem to have a
moral filter about what they did. He found it amazing to read about the GDR
here and then think about how relatively easily it has been re-assimilated back
into modern Germany. For Chris it also
highlighted the importance of people keeping diaries as a record.
Mark T was
only about half way through the book and felt unable to comment too much, but
was also quite curious following his own visit to Berlin. He found it easy to read, liked the chapter
structure and was enjoying it so far.
Neil was
less enamoured with the book despite having been quite keen to read it. He admitted that his prior knowledge of the
Stasi and their work was based largely on having seen The Lives Of Others, the
famous award-winning German film about a Stasi investigator who spies on and
discredits an artist. Obviously this
book was much less dramatic and for Neil lacked emotional interest. He thought GA’s regurgitation of too many
facts about people and politics of the time was unnecessarily complex and the
use of his own file was a little self-indulgent and far less interesting than
if he had researched more examples of other people for whom the files had real
impact and created real threats to their lives and existence. He found some of
the most interesting bits were when GA met former senior Stasi officers and
found them pottering in the garden for instance, so completely in contrast to
the kind of people they would have been in their day.
Chris B
added his own comments via email saying hat he had hoped for more. He too had
seen Lives of Others and felt he learnt more from it, but maybe the point of
this book is that a lot of surveillance is humdrum and dull. What Chris did
find interesting was how people reacted to being approached to inform or to
work for the Stasi and whether or not they should have been outed when they
were…or were they victims themselves of the regime. So he found it enjoyable,
but at the same time felt an opportunity had been missed to make it a more
exciting or insightful read.
Mark W also emailed in to say that he did finish it, more out of duty than as a result of any particular sense of enjoyment. The subject was potentially very interesting, but for him the personal history of this relatively unimportant player in the game didn't really add many new insights or particularly interesting new observations.
In fact he found him quite irritating overall, possible because Mark is not generally sympathetic to rich kids who seem to be able to swan around doing what they enjoy doing presumably being subsidised by parents or something meaning while the rest of us have to think about working and earning money! Mark has also enjoyed The Lives of Others' on a number of counts and found it told him much more about what it was like living in East Germany at this time.
Mark W also emailed in to say that he did finish it, more out of duty than as a result of any particular sense of enjoyment. The subject was potentially very interesting, but for him the personal history of this relatively unimportant player in the game didn't really add many new insights or particularly interesting new observations.
In fact he found him quite irritating overall, possible because Mark is not generally sympathetic to rich kids who seem to be able to swan around doing what they enjoy doing presumably being subsidised by parents or something meaning while the rest of us have to think about working and earning money! Mark has also enjoyed The Lives of Others' on a number of counts and found it told him much more about what it was like living in East Germany at this time.
So, as you
may have gathered, there were quite divergent views and very divergent scores
which led to a lively debate in the Coeur de Lion.