Sunday 4 September 2022

The Road to Wigan Pier – George Orwell

September 1 2022, Coeur de Lion.

A lot was said this evening, even though only five made it to the table on the night – others provided notes. This summary will inevitably miss out some good stuff – apologies in advance!

SC, whose choice this was, explained that he thought he’d read this book a long time ago, but recently revisited Orwell’s ‘Collected Essays, Journalism and Letters: Volume 1’ (which he first read in his 20s) and remembered that it includes the original Wigan Pier diaries. So in fact he’d never read the book itself, but the diaries instead. The diaries are interesting as Orwell’s thoughts aren’t filtered for publication, (though they also prove how little he had changed when the book was first published in 1936) but the following comments relate only to the book.

Everyone commented upon Orwell’s shocking descriptions of poverty and deprivation in England in the 1930s. It’s extraordinary to reflect on how much our day-to-day lives have changed in the 90-odd years since, in many ways because of the demise of manufacturing in this country. And yet, how divided the nation still is as the haves continue to out-earn the have-nots (CB).

One quote from SC gives us a clear view of Orwell’s standpoint: “You cannot disregard them if you accept the civilisation that produced them. For this is part at least of what industrialism has done for us. Columbus sailed the Atlantic, the first steam engines tottered into motion, the British squares stood firm under the French guns at Waterloo, the one-eyed scoundrels of the nineteenth century praised God and filled their pockets; and this is where it all led – to labyrinthine slums and dark back kitchens with sickly, ageing people creeping round and round them like black beetles.”

The book is presented in two halves: firstly as a diary of visits to various deprived areas in the north Midlands and the North, which he made as an assignment for his publishers (and as RV mentions, the story of how Victor Gollancz felt he had to write a rather apologetic foreword to the first edition – in Orwell’s absence – is an example in itself of how twisted up the British could become about class and the ‘right way of doing things’, whatever the motive and subject matter). The second section is a heartfelt, if at times rambling and less coherent hymn to socialism, explaining to his readers why that is the only way forward to equality and fairness for all.

All clubbers felt that the first half was the more accessible, in many ways more powerful part. Arguably little more needed to be said beyond his eloquently grim descriptions of deprivation and hardship. JH felt that Orwell gets bogged down in his own arguments in the second half but writes with an easy, highly personal style, describing the staggering stench of the rooms he stayed in: “You did not notice it when you got up, but if you went out of the room and came back, the smell hit you in the face with a smack.” He used his eloquence to criticise: “first condemn a family to live on thirty shillings a week, and then have the impertinence to tell them how they are to spend their money”. AA compared it to Priestley’s ‘English Journey’, which preceded Wigan Pier by a few years (also commissioned by Gollancz) – with Priestley being perhaps slightly less stiff and didactic, more of an observer.

WM pointed out how Orwell begins his eulogy for socialism at a human and impactful level, bemoaning humankind’s preference for ‘some slick machine-made article’ and our constant race to improve and replace what we already have – very fitting for today. However GO then gets too personal about forgotten figures of the time and repeats himself.

CW appreciated that Orwell was pioneering a form of journalism that still influences much of our news today: on the ground ‘real-life experience’. Much of it is unforgettable – Orwell’s gift for understatement amplifies the effect. CW said the book’s importance couldn’t be understated: MPs of the day read it on publication and it was a huge influence on the development of the Welfare State. Imagine a single book having that effect today…

RV appreciated the detail of the mundanity of lives and homes: the detailed of budgets gave us a clear way to connect and compare with our own lifestyles today. But he also pointed out that Orwe’ll was describing ‘relative poverty’, and how some things really haven’t changed: “And that is the central fact about housing in the industrial areas: not that the houses are poky and ugly, and insanitary and comfortless, or that they are distributed in incredibly filthy slums round belching foundries and stinking canals and slag heaps that deluge them with sulphurous smoke—though all this is perfectly true —but simply that there are not enough houses to go round.”

This book isn’t just about poverty and deprivation though – it’s also about how society changed as a result of WW1 (and how, as Orwell says, if another war didn’t come along, many of the unemployed would probably never find a job again). He showed he can be a compelling and compassionate writer if he needs to be: “Where are the monstrous men with chests like barrels and moustaches like the wings of eagles who strode across my childhood’s gaze twenty or thirty years ago?” (RV’s quote)

There are so many connections with our lives today; AA pointed out that William Morris was using ‘Levelling Up’ long before our current shower of politicians (though Orwell didn’t necessarily approve of the phrase). AA also made some detailed specific points relating to health issues:

  • How the shockingly cavalier attitude to miners’ health and welfare is mirrored by many aspects of the way our health system is being strangulated today, making it increasingly difficult to access care unless you pay for it.
  • How poverty is inextricably linked to the low-wage economy (and still is)
  • How poor housing conditions continue to affect health, creating a potential humanitarian crisis in the very near future.
MW enjoyed the flashes of dry humour that shone through Orwell’s writing at times (not always intentionally), noting his constant struggle to avoid sounding condescending or patronising. He didn’t always get it right – certainly not to our 21st Century ears: “and father, who has been out of work since 1929, is temporarily happy because he has a sure tip for the Cesarewitch.” Like others, MW found the discussion of class very pertinent, as Orwell talks about the manners and traditions learned in childhood ‘persisting from birth to death’. The English way of characterising the social class of a person by how they speak persists to this day.

Orwell’s observations on class as shaped by British colonialism were also interesting as they offered an insight into his own upbringing – not just the awfully constricted ‘lower-upper-middle class’ that his parents uncomfortably inhabited along with many others, but also his dreadful and formative experiences in the Burma police, and how that affected him on his return.

As well as being struck by the discussion of class, CB also commented on the polarised nature of Orwell’s examination of Socialism vs Fascism – very much all or nothing in each respect, with no recognition that there might be a ‘middle way’. Orwell was off to fight in the Spanish Civil War on completing this book so perhaps he wasn’t in the best frame of mind for an even-handed discussion of those options.

MT loved the first part – the vivid descriptions of how awful things were, and yet noting that some people didn’t know they were poor until told they were, because they never knew any different. Couldn’t happen today! But while some of the descriptions in the second half were engaging and to a certain extent entertaining (the threat to socialism from its loudest supporters, the fruit drinkers, nudists, sandal wearers, sex maniacs, Quakers…), it lost its momentum to a modern reader.

So in summary, everyone agreed it was an interesting book; despite the naivety of his views in some respects (hindsight is a wonderful thing), there was also a strong sense of the book’s historical significance. Most agreed Orwell’s writing was powerful – he could turn the charm or the anger on very effectively. In the introduction to one edition, by Richard Hoggart, “he [Orwell] was a good hater”. You wouldn’t have wanted to be on the wrong side of him in an argument.

For a number of us it was a revisit to a book read many years ago, and in that context it underlined for us what had changed, not only since publication but since first reading – and what has yet to improve.

Scores: JH 7.5; MT 6.5; RV 8.75; SC 7.75; WM 7.5; CB 7.0; CW 7.75; AA 8.5; MW 6.5

Average 7.5

Wednesday 25 May 2022

The Vanishing Half – Brit Bennett

BBBC Discussion May 5: Notes

 

RV liked this book a lot, although with some caveats.  The positives included the quality of the writing, from the great first sentence: “The morning one of the lost twins returned to Mallard, Lou LeBon ran to the diner to break the news, and even now, many years later, everyone remembers the shock of sweaty Lou pushing through the glass doors, chest heaving, neckline darkened with his own effort”.  The use of excellent images and phrases: “One morning, the twins crowded in front of their bathroom mirror, four identical girls fussing with their hair”; “The idea arrived to Alphonse Decuir in 1848, as he stood in the sugarcane fields he’d inherited from the father who’d once owned him.”; “Her death hit in waves. Not a flood, but water lapping steadily at her ankles. You could drown in two inches of water. Maybe grief was the same.

 

RV liked the plot movements, and the three generations, and the underlying discussions throughout about race and gender, and highlighted some of interesting ideas raised such as: On becoming who you wanted to be: She felt queasy at how simple it was. All there was to being white was acting like you were.”; and then later: “That was the thrill of youth, the idea that you could be anyone.  Or the issue of twin-ness: but she liked being part of an us. People thought that being one of a kind made you special. No, it just made you lonely. What was special was belonging with someone else.” ; or on alienation: There were many ways to be alienated from someone, few to actually belong.

 

However, there were some things he felt which jarred, such as that the ‘trans’ and the ‘cross-dressing’ elements were unnecessary and took away from the main important lines.  He thought that some of Stella’s actions were entirely out of character – for example: ““I had a twin sister. You remind me of her a little.” She hadn’t planned to say this, and as soon as she did, she regretted it”.  Stella has spent decades being unbelievably careful and hiding every element about her past. It is SO unlikely that she would reveal so much, and especially to a black woman!   But overall, he found the book very enjoyable, and one that will stay with him.

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CW enjoyed this book which he felt dealt with a number of very topical issues but at the same time couldn’t help being reminded of his comments from the last book (1000 Moons) which he felt was rather contrived in its storyline in order to carry several of its main themes.  There were a number of issues that he couldn’t quite get his head around, including:  the community of black people who actually looked white( Mallard); Stella’s dogged desire to remain out of touch with her mother and sister because she wishes to continue living the lie of being white; also the inevitability that Jude has to end up meeting and living with a trans-person and getting to know the LGBTQ community in LA; and also. They all felt rather contrived, but necessary I suppose to create the interesting storyline of the book.

 

To him the whole LGBTQ experience in LA was rather unnecessary as it diverted from the principal theme of race and colour in the US and how this is perceived an experienced from both white and black people and people of mixed race. Once Barry turned up on the scene who at weekends became Bianca having just got used to Reese's sexuality it was all beginning to get too much!?

 

But having  got over these moans CW felt that this was an interesting book. The characters were real and well described and their emotions feelings and ideas realistically expressed in good dialogue. He thought it was good  telling the story through three generations showing how attitudes to race colour and "difference" had changed and continue to change. Overall, a good book but could've been shorter.

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AA saw this as a story about race and inequality and identity and lies and living a lie.  It had a great start with great descriptions: “She regretted the words as soon as they left her mouth, but by then, it was too late. She had rung the bell, and all her life, the note would hang in the air”.  “I love shopping,” she’d said, almost to herself. “It’s like trying on all the other people you could be.”

 

The book had some terrible stories of racism and violence with white men torturing and lynching the twins’ father Leon for little or no reason. The way that black people in the US were treated as if they were not people - like the Indians in A Thousand Moons.  The book brought out the terrible loneliness of Jude as a child being taunted and hurt continually and totally ostracised and alone.

 

He liked the clever plot contrasting twins with the links of the daughters and their mother, and the LA cast of characters - drag queens etc, and Jude's chance encounter with Stella at the retirement party.  The way things came to a head with Loretta and her family, Jude's chance glimpse of Stella and the pursuit of Kennedy, and then her rather confrontational meeting with Stella which goes badly and provides no resolution.  He thought the way Stella's deception and lies played out in the next generation was clever and although it was protracted and made you wish they'd just have a decent chat and try and improve things, it showed up how damaged Stella was from her trauma (and her sister too who was stuck in the safety of the job at the diner which she hated).  He really enjoyed the meeting between Stella and Desiree in the diner reflected in what the dozy drunk saw and what he didn't.

 

AA found it uncomfortable reading at times and no tidy ending with neat resolutions.  He felt it was quite a suffocating read all round – each of the characters lived with suffocation and constraints in one way or another.  The awful trauma when the sisters witnessed of the father’s death.  Everyone seemed to carry a lot of pain:  He was raised in the projects of Cleveland and he loved that city with the fierceness of someone who hadn’t been given much to love”.  “Her grandmother would not be sitting on the porch to greet them. Her death hit in waves. Not a flood, but water lapping steadily at her ankles. You could drown in two inches of water. Maybe grief was the same.”

 

At end of the story Bennett discusses the pallor of the skin on Reese’s chest compared to the rest of him, just after the people of Mallard had been wondering how Jude had become a medical student when she was so black.  The book ends with them floating in the river instead of attending the wake of her grandmother, begging to forget – for Reese his family and life as a girl, and for Jude her terrible ostracised childhood.

 

AA thought it was a clever book, exploring powerful issues in a relevant authentic way but it didn't completely pull me in and make me care enough about the characters – even Early, Desiree, Jude and Reese.   He was really pleased to have read it even if it was not a comfortable read. 

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SC soon got into the swing of the book, despite what felt like a misstep in the first few lines: '…sweaty Lou pushing through the glass doors, chest heaving, neckline darkened with his own effort. The barely awake customers clamored around him…'   He wasn’t sure barely awake customers would clamour. But anyway…

SC felt that Bennett builds the back story fluently. Desiree and Stella’s stories were deftly handled, with little mortar bombs of surprising and sometimes horrifying detail about the casual racism and violence that characterised American life, particularly in the rural southern states in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s. The murder of their father, particularly so. 

On page 22: ’By the time Desiree found the nerve to leave, she hadn’t spoken to Stella since she’d passed over. She had no way to reach her and didn’t even know where she lived now’. Brought to mind the film from last year called ‘Passing’, which dealt with the same subject.

The prose had an easy-going feel to it that sometimes verged on the Chandleresque: very American, very much of the time and people and geography she was writing about: ‘The man beside him said something that made him smile into his whiskey. Those high cheekbones pierced her. Even after all those years, she would know Early Jones anywhere.’

The ‘twins separated – will they find each other – theme is well-used: SC thought of ‘The Prince and the Pauper’ and he was sure others could think of more. In that respect it felt a bit unoriginal, and while this was certainly a different variation, Bennett seemed to spend quite a lot of time moving the pieces around to get her characters into the situations she wanted.

Admittedly this allowed Bennett to develop situations that enabled the layers hiding Stella to be peeled back, and the creation of a different, interesting and strong character in Jude was effective. Reese was arguably a bit of a distraction, but SC felt that by giving Jude an asexual partner (at least initially) she could concentrate on the search of identity, rather than a search for love. 

But he felt that the plot lost momentum in the comfortable lifestyle Stella was leading with her banker husband. He missed the really powerful direct descriptions and situations from earlier in the book when she was still setting up the back story. Could Bennett be accused of selling out her Black heritage by creating such a shocking but potentially plausible set of circumstances in the first half of the book, embedded in the casual racism we know to be true of the time, only to use that as a platform for a series of ‘will they/won’t they’ plot lines that felt as though they were deliberately designed to help sell the TV/film rights? Or does that play into a scenario where Black people aren’t allowed to be comfortable and aspirational? Discuss…
 
SC felt that the author manipulated the characters and their situations rather too readily to be believable. The risk Stella took in having a child with a white man was huge. The whole book could have centred around the issues buried in there. The ending was OK, but all a bit mawkish. Mother’s Alzheimer’s, and the funeral, and the way it brought Reese and Jude back together, and all the rather glib convenient loose end tying amounted to a rather unmemorable, slightly disappointing end to a potentially interesting book.

 

CB felt this was an engaging and easy to read book which kept his interested throughout. He liked the three-generation quality of the book, with the third generation turning out so very different in their approach to life as well as colour. There was symmetry too in the more adventurous twin ending up back in her hometown whilst the shy one created a totally different life for herself. He felt we heard real voices form each of the main characters and a consistency of conversational style in each one. CB also felt he got to know all the key players and the quality of their interactions with each other. Some beautiful writing about small events e.g. A long afternoon of celebration while the band played, the night ending in a dance in the school gymnasium, where the grown folks stumbled home after too many cups of Trinity Thierry’s rum punch, the few hours back in that gym pulling them tenderly toward their younger selves. And powerful writing about shocking events such as the lynching of Leon.

 

Characters:  Whilst CB liked the characters and found them interesting, he did not feel strongly excited by them. There was a good sense of the tension, Stella felt in living her lie making her child feel shut out (but was it a lie really?) and the relationship between Jude and Reese, her trans boyfriend was also intriguing and well described. 

 

Relationships:  Good mother daughter relationships, complete with intergenerational tensions.  That was the problem: you could never love two people the exact same way. Her blessing had been doomed from the beginning, her girls as impossible to please as jealous gods.”.  He noted that the men were more side characters though well drawn.

Dilemmas:  What are your options when you escape your family and small-town living? It’s tough at first but you live on your wits and your optimism and your family and friends’ support. What colour do you choose to be as a mixed-race person? Black and put up with the systemic racism you will face or white and live in fear of being outed as black? As a white, you have access to more wealth and respect: but how do you treat others who are black? Where do you belong? Things are changing, maybe as the third generation is much less exercised by race and gender stereotypes. The white girl can face her own demons and the black girl can live in confidence.

 

Underlying Theme:  It is still tough to be black in the USA (and other places), but the life of a white person may lack genuineness and joy. Family and intergenerational relationships are tricky to navigate but we are still drawn to our close relatives.

 

Negatives:  CB felt it was a satisfying book but no great insights or excitement for me. Some of the encounters seemed rather unlikely as BB says herself: Statistically speaking, the likelihood of encountering a niece you’d never met at a Beverly Hills retirement party was improbable but not impossible.

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MW found the Vanishing Half an engaging story and an enjoyable read.  He thought it was a brilliant premise for a story. It well-captured some of the challenges faced by communities in the US over the two generations in an imaginative way – particularly the description of the fears in prosperous middle-class white communities. He found some of the characters really interesting notably the twins themselves, as well as the relationships between some of the characters such as between Early and Desiree or the way that the relationship between Stella and Loretta developed and ended. But he was less convinced by the characters of the two granddaughters – Kennedy and Jude.  MW felt the key chapter was the one in which Stella comes home to Mallard in that it brought together so many of the issues raised in the story. MW also highlighted the way that some of the narrative and descriptions were rather understated, such as about Adele’s dementia, and worked the better for it.

 

Though the story was well-set up MW had a slight feeling of disappointment towards the end.  He thought the issue of Reese and his sexuality was a bit of “filler”.  The description of the reunion was underwhelming – though MW acknowledged that he was not sure what else the author could do support the story line. 

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JH was pleased to have read this novel, which he felt lived up to its plaudits – the fluent and readable style, a good piece of contemporary storytelling with some timely insights into the poison of racism. The story follows the journeys of two estranged twin sisters leading very different lives. They adopt different identities that reflect the lives they have chosen, their different communities, families and racial identities. Yet while they are separated by these choices - distance, time and a background of lies and deceit, the fates of these twins remain intertwined – particularly through the lives of their own children.

 

The book tells their story in an engaging and surprisingly plausible way considering the complexity of their stories, and the different life journeys they have been on.  But JH felt that it was more than just a successful narrative as it dealt with some wider themes.  Such as to the way our parents shape or lives and how we inherit so much from them and yet know so little about the lives they lived when they were younger.  JH also felt it raised important issues as to what it means to be authentic and to the degree we can decide and/or create our own identities.  The story highlights lasting influence of the past in the way that it shapes anyone’s decisions, desires, and expectations. It also explores the range of reasons why some of us sometimes feel pulled to live a life as something other than what our initial origins might have foretold. It raised questions as to how much of our personal narrative about our life is a genuine or honest account of what or who we are?

 

JH also reflected that this book was yet another effective and insightful commentary on the difficult and fraught state of race relations in the US. He saw this book as part of the wider literature that captures the racial tensions in the US, but also another insight into the way the US has developed over the last 150 years as we have explored in some of recent books we have read.  For example, the tensions in the post-civil war South (Sebastian Barry’s Thousand Moons), or the background to, and tensions in, 1970s youth culture in middle America (Jonathan Franzen’s Crossroads). JH saw this historical narrative continued in the way that this novel successfully weaves together the multiple strands and generations of a particular family, from the Deep South to California, from the 1950s to the 1990s.  He felt the Vanishing Half was a powerful and well-written exploration of recent American history and attitudes – albeit explored through particularly creative and quirky lens.

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MT found the Vanishing Half an enjoyable read.  He thought it was well-written, easy to read and some good quotes.  There were some strong images and good descriptions. He liked the characters which were really interesting and the way that the author portrayed emotions; also the mix of issues covered – gender, race, sexual identity etc. MT thought the book dealt with these really relevant “big” themes in an accessible, easy-to-read way.  In particular, the issue of authenticity and what it means to be authentic in a world where it is increasingly possible to re-invent or even self-create yourself – including your gender or racial identity. He highlighted the challenges that Stella faced once she identified herself as white and married a white man and lived in a white neighbourhood.

 

However, MT also found some of the book a bit far-fetched, such as the meeting of the meeting up at the party.  He was not convinced by the character of Reese, and he felt some of the issues around trans-sexuality and cross-dressing were rather contrived in the context of the story and which he felt he worked to the detriment of the “big” themes in the story. He was also uncertain as to the way that Stella tried to reveal identity to her black neighbour, Loretta Walker, after so many years of trying to hide her racial background or where she came from.

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WM did not really get into this book – got halfway and then got bored so gave up.  He thought the book covered some great themes, but he didn’t really appreciate the writing – what he felt was too much rather simple, even crude, narrative.   WM recognised that the novel dealt with some important issues. In particular the issue of identity, self-identity and the struggle about who you are and who you were.  He sees this as something that can be a huge internal struggle for some people and an obstacle that has to be overcome.  In this context and the background the twins have come from he can understand the dilemmas they face or how they or their children react – including the way that Stella can identify with her new black neighbour Lorretta Walker  or how Jude could not believe that she would ever be loved.

Friday 15 April 2022

A Thousand Moons – Sebastian Barry

 

MW introduced the book by saying that it was published in 2020 and was written as a sequel to ‘Days Without End’ which itself was published in 2016 and was read and generally enjoyed by the BBBC in May 2017. More recently the BBBC also read Barry’s ‘The Secret Scripture’.

 

‘Days Without End’ was narrated by Thomas McNulty whereas ‘A Thousand Moons’ was narrated by Winona, one of the other key characters in the first novel. The novel is set in the aftermath of the American Civil War and follows Winona as she settles into life on Lige Magan’s farm in a small town called Paris, Tennessee: ‘…a town of many eyes watching you anyhow, an uneasy place’.

 

JH, on a second reading enjoyed the book much more than the first reading.  He understood the story much more as Winona’s story (rather than just a follow-up of John and Thomas’ story). He relished Barry’s rather quirky lyrical narrative style and his great use of language.  There were some wonderfully drawn characters such a lawyer Briscoe, Peg in her yellow dress, Rosalee’s strength and care, as well as the cast of menfolk on the farm – Tennyson Bougueeau, Lige Magan, and the older Thomas McNulty and John Cole. He found it a troubling novel which made one reflect on the consequences of any war, and one in which Barry well captures the poverty and inherent violence, as well as the grim, often contradictory humanity, of the post-bellum South.

 

He found the narrative to be evocative and compelling – not hard work and he kept wanting to read more. He found that it worked on many different levels , for example capturing the love and friendship of those on the farm, but also painting a bleak picture of the prejudices and casual brutality endemic in South ten years after the Civil War ended – which he suspected to be common to any post-civil war community.  He observed that Barry also draws on the terrible treatment of, and attitude to, Native Americans.

 

Overall, a wonderfully written book, but on reflection one that possibly tried to incorporate too many complex and demanding themes – racism, rape, revenge, attitudes to violence, slavery, role of the law, post-war communities and institutions, homosexuality, love and friendship, etc, etc.  But it is also a story that concludes with a really powerful voice of optimism “that the world was strange and lost was not an argument…that I had souls that loved me and hearts that watched over me was a truth self-evident to hold.”

 

AA described the book as a tale of bigotry and hatred and othering and narrowness and poverty and white male power and lawlessness . He described Barry as a great storyteller with lyrical prose and characters he cared about, with Winona as first-person narrator. There was a lovely start with Winona reflecting on her life so far - could have been an info dump but her voice was strong and authentic-feeling so carried it off like the introductory voiceover to a film. She told how all her family were killed by white men whose genocidal slogan was 'kill them all' and how she ended up in the care of a gay couple who had taken part in the massacre of her family, and who are looked after by their former slave Rosalee.

 

I had the wound of being a lost child. Thing was it was they that healed me, Thomas McNulty and John Cole. They had done their damnedest I guess. So they both gave me the wound and healed it, which is a hard fact in its way. 

 

 Then there was the terrible rape, and the battery of Tennyson, introducing the growing themes of racism and the civil war and then the burning down of the lawyer’s house. There were beautiful descriptions and phrasing which felt authentic to Winona’s voice. He enjoyed the ending with the Lakota dream after Winona was shot which might have been her death and the end of the book but was followed by her return to her new family of guardian angels while her old family of guardian angels watch over her from their spirit place. It was a happy ending but with a warning that the world remains full of uncertainty and danger -  

 

That the world was strange and lost was not in argument. That there was no place to stand on the earth that was not perilous was just the news of every moment. That I had souls that loved me and hearts that watched over me was a truth self-evident to hold. 

 

 

CB really liked the book. He found it incredibly lyrical, almost a poem and maybe speaking in Winona’s voice and persona allowed Barry to do this more fully than otherwise. He was moved by the descriptions of love and hate and of the beauty of the natural world as well as Winona’s description of the traumatic effect of her rape.  He liked the slowly building whodunnit sense of the book alongside the strongly evoked sense of trauma, shame and difficulty of expressing what happened to Winona that he felt many people feel. It was good to be reacquainted with Thomas McNulty and John Cole and the cast of characters evoked the period very well with down to earth people making the best of a hard life. Whilst the same sex couple and Winona’s subsequent love affair did not raise many eyebrows, there was a brooding menace from the apparent regression to a time of racist violence in the defeated confederate state. He did feel the book ended a bit suddenly as if he ran out of steam and just wanted the story resolved. But this was a small niggle. Overall, a message for our times!

 

CW suggested that enjoyment of this book depends what you are reading this book for and whether you are interested in a rather “lightweight“ easy read of post-Civil War America which is a medium for telling you about the racism and bigotry that existed at the time (but curiously not homophobia apparently). At first he really enjoyed the book and enjoyed the style of the narration by Winona and although he hadn’t read Days without End he found the characters were built up well as well as the historical background. However there was a point halfway through where he did stop and just think why was he bothering to read this book? it is really very simple and formulaic with a number of implausible events (the bear turning up and most incredible - the ending) and were there not more rewarding things to read?? But most implausible of all was the issue of sexuality which seem to be quite accepted although really they belonged to the latter half of the 21st-century rather than 1865 or thereabouts. In the end the completely unbelievable final jail scene left him very disappointed.

 

RV enjoyed the book a lot. He found the writing to be particularly good and the poetry came over. Interesting that Barry’s America of the 1870s is inhabited by gay people and no one seems to bat an eye. There were a number of loving relationships, in particular Thomas and John; Winona knows she is loved by her adapted parents. He particularly enjoyed the lyricism and the love of the parents and the different voices.

There were not too many missteps in the book although some of the grammar was a bit odd. Winona’s voice was very distinctive but he didn’t really understand Jas. Overall the book was enjoyable and he read it very quickly.


MT didn’t find it an easy read. He found the book irritating and couldn’t really get into the writing style. Although it got better towards the end he still felt it annoyed him. It was interesting to read about the Civil War and the terrible racism that existed in this period, particularly the awfulness of the white male power and the complete lawlessness. He felt that the meeting between Winona and Peg could have been explored better . The ending didn’t convince, in particular why Wynkle would rescue Winona. Overall not really Mark’s fare.

 

SC had read the book before and found that he appreciated it more reading it for the second time. He quite liked it the first time but really enjoyed it the second. He liked the approach of having ordinary people as narrators in earth shattering situations. Although the book was readable, this was not an easy book to read because of the content. He was prepared to believe that the style created represented a blend of influences. It was interesting how the author searched for how to express some of the events that happened to her. The voice was simple, blunt and unambiguous. Most of the women came across as oppressed. The prose was brilliant and overall not a great book but a very good one. He really enjoyed it.

 

For MW, enjoyment of the book depended one one’s ability/willingness to get into the head of Winona, and to be convinced of the logic of her actions. Barry, as a middle aged white Irishman, attempting to write from the point of view of a young Native American girl must have been a real challenge. The interesting thing is that no-one can really say he is wrong.

 

As a plot the book is a bit thin but he was pleased by the ending because he felt he had invested a lot in getting to know Winona and didn’t really want her to come to a premature end. The saviour was however a bit unlikely, and this was probably a weakness.

 

Apart from Winona, the portrayal of the other characters was probably a bit thin but it certainly helped having read the previous book, where Thomas, John Cole and Lige were already well developed.

 

For Mark, the success of this book comes from the startling portrayal of the brutality of the post Civil War period, which he manages again, probably even better than the first book. Considering its such a short book, it is remarkable how he manages to paint such a vivid picture with such few words.

 

Overall, this book was enjoyed by most, although one or two did express some clear reservations. Scores as follows:

 

RV 7.5

WM 8.5

MT 5.0

SC 8.5

CW 6.5

MW 8.5

JH 7.5

AA 8.0

CB 8.0

Thursday 17 March 2022

The Man Who Died – Antti Tuomainen

 

March 2022 book club meeting (3-3-22).

 

Venue: MT’s home. All present except RV. Everyone had read the book.

 

It was an enjoyable evening, with lively discussions about the book, the next book, and the political situation around the geographical location of the book. Members started arriving at 8 pm, and the meeting finished at 11 pm. The gathering was in an upstairs sitting room; even though it was a large room, there did not seem to be much room with all the members present. The book discussion started with the arrival of a plate of hot baked mushrooms, to set the scene.

 

It was MT’s book and his book was one of four offered to the group 2 months ago. It was a book recommended from the magazine “in the week”. Additionally, MT really liked Scani Noir and this book was set in a country not normally used by this genre (Finland) and most of the reviews were very good and enticing. One of the reasons this book was finally chosen out of the four, was that it was the shortest, and all of the group wanted a shorter novel than the previous book, the excellent Crossroads.

 

This was an intriguing and quirky story about Jaakko Kaunismaa, a 37 year old Finnish man, who was the entrepreneur and chief executive behind a successful mushroom business. He finds at the start of the novel that he has been poisoned, and his doctor tell him he has only a short time to live, days or weeks. He thinks his wife is the one poisoning him, after he finds her fornicating with one of the junior employees of his company, the pick-up truck driver. The story speeds along, and then a doggy competitor arrives on the scene, together with his strong hench-men, trying to steal his business, and his staff.  Jaakko gets involved with a double death, and almost gets killed himself in the process. He is determined to find out who actually was actually poisoning him, and what his wife was up to. So a thriller and a who done it novel.

 

All book club members present had some positive things to say about the book, and found it an enjoyable easy, but three really enjoyed it (MT, JH, CB), and JH found it to be complete escapism which was good for him. Everyone liked the fact that it was a short book, and easy to read, and therefore a big change from the last, very long book. All the scores were above average and positive or very positive, except for the person who was not present, who did not like the book at all.  

 

Everyone enjoyed the start of the book, the doctor’s diagnosis, and the wife’s unfaithfulness. For RV it went downhill from there and degenerated terribly. MW found it mostly enjoyable, but in the end he felt it failed to deliver and had a disappointing ending and SC agreed. Other people found it zipped along (MT, AA, CW).  Many people enjoyed the humour in the book, although RV found the attempts at written slapstick humour very weak indeed. Others positively liked the humour aspects (WM and MT) and  WM particularly liked the bit about Jaakko holding his belly in in the presence of women and gradually releasing it incrementally. This resonated with everyone present and their own experiences, and generated a lot of comments.

 

Some members mentioned the technology in the novel. RV liked the printer bit and it belching out paper, and MT liked the statement about gossip in the small town spreading faster than data through fibre-optic cables.

 

Some members found the book stiff and clunky (SC) and many thought some sections really stretched the imagination and were far too implausible. (SC, RV, CW, MW), although MT said it reminded him of some of his favourite Murakami books, which really stretches credibility, but they work for him.

 

There were a few comments about the one dimensional characters (AA , CB and CW) and how it was easy to feel detached from the story. However, some positively enjoyed certain characters, especially Jaakko (MT and JH) and the policeman (JH). CB felt sorry for Jaakko as he was very isolated in life, had few friends and no siblings, and no wonder his marriage was failing. Others felt that Sanni was very well described and even very fanciable (CB and MT).

 

Many members agreed that the book described the landscape well and took readers into a different, unknown world (JH, MT, CW, SC). Some members liked the educational aspect of the book and it gave them information about mushrooms they did not know before (SC and WM). 

 

There was a lot of discussion about the philosophical aspects of the book and people liked Jaakko’s thoughts about one’s last days and what would one do with them. Everyone seemed to get something from that. Some particularly liked the bit about the value of life and having to almost die to experience beautiful sunsets (MT and CW).

 

Some members thought the tension parts, especially with the wife, and the heavies were good and realistic, but others thought the death of the heavies was considered implausible and far-fetched (RV, CW).  

 

JH loved the journey through the town square, and loved the staff meeting, and many others did as well. The meal with the Japanese and the subsequent food poisoning was liked by many and MT said it reminded him of the cook, the thief his wife and his lover, and indeed he felt that the film seemed to capture the sentiment of this book.

 

In conclusion, it was a lively, lengthy and interesting discussion. Everyone present declared they had a good evening, and the mushrooms were enjoyed by all.

 

Scores: RV 3, WM 6.5, SC 5.5, JH 7, CB 6, CW 6, MW 6.5, MT 7.

Sunday 27 February 2022

Crossroads – Jonathan Franzen

Normally book reviews from the club have a “marmite” flavour reflecting the often contrasting views of individual members. Unusually though Crossroads was liked by every member and in some cases complimented very highly.

 

If there was one criticism raised it it was that (with 900 pages) it was too long but everybody was drawn into the book (as if watching a soap opera) and  stuck with it and in several cases are interested in reading the next two instalments.

 

Crossroads describes a dysfunctional family in 1970s midwestern USA who come together at Thanksgiving “at a pivotal moment of moral crisis”.

 

In an effort to keep our reviews as succinct as possible the group summarised their thoughts as follows:

 

Writing and dialogue

·      Was almost universally good.

·      Long and interestingly structured but easy to read because it had a strong narrative flow. The book was enjoyed because it read like an addictive soap opera.

·      Great descriptions of the decline and fall of the overly bright but pompous pothead son Perry and the mayhem such a life can cause.

·      It was rather compulsive reading-with a fluent, readable style with sufficiently strong storyline that you wanted to keep reading.

 

Characters

·      Intricate interesting characters with incredibly detailed portraits of their lives

·      Brilliant at getting himself into the minds of teenagers.

·      Captured the different stages of adolescence 15-17-19 very well and differentiated between them well.

·      Real and well developed characters.

·      The characters were so real there was so much detail and perceptive description of their thoughts and actions.

·      Great characters flawed yet likable a real sense of what is going on in their minds and bodies their perceptions and relationships the ups and downs of love affairs and of religious feelings. Build a very full,deep and interesting sense of the whole family and the people they interact with.

 

Relationships

Franzen is brilliant at relationships with each character’s webs all interlinking in a giant 3D silk sculpture… he describes all the parts of people that those close never get to know or at least fully understand and focuses on the minutiae of the small things of every day life which are fascinating despite all their intricacy, complexity and density.

 

Religion

·      The theme of religion runs through the whole book and the ideas and debates over the nature of religion Christianity and belief were enjoyed particularly by RV.

·      Most of all the book left Chris W with  questions about religion and particularly Christianity and its impact on its disciples and the complication it adds to people’s lives.

·      Many similarities with the strict closeted religious lifestyle described in education by Tara Westover.

 

Dilemmas

·      Full of real life dilemmas  anti-war yet personal morality not to dodge the draft, religious belief versus personal behaviour, love for children and an inability to give them what they want, sexual drive versus personal morality.

 

Family

·      Builds a very full, deep and interesting sense of the whole family and the people they interact with.

·      The underlying theme in the book is that nothing is more important than family.

 

Context

·      Many remarked how they were able to connect with many of the themes in the book which brought back vivid memories of their own experiences in the 1970s. 

·      MTs upbringing with his strict religious father-so much of my youth in this-my father’s church, youth club and its camps -lots of religion there and naughty things with girls such as snogging and kissing… listening to sermons at church, getting ready to follow a girl sitting in a far away pew afterwards-made it all worthwhile!

·      For SC it gave very vivid personal portraits, he enjoyed the descriptions of life in USA around the time when he was in his late teens.

·      MW memories of his church youth club in Bristol motivated obviously by all the attractive Christian girls that also attended!

·      For JH the author captured a time that had a huge impact on him when he visited and lived in the US-Franzen captured well both the big things such as the joys and tribulations of young love, pervasive presence of dope, the overriding influence of the Vietnam war as well as the little things in life such as the noise of a Maytag washing machine and of his Plymouth Fury car.

·      For CB it gave a good feel for the context of the early 1970s, the last stages of the Vietnamese war, smalltown America, poor conditions of native Americans, separated racial communities, the new vogue for openness (however manufactured).

 

Underlying Theme 

·      What is it to be good? Can goodness ever truly be its own reward or consciously or not does it always serve some personal instrumentality?

·      Very enjoyable musing on the nature of being good.

·      Can you be good by nailing your colours to a religious mast, or does it come more from inside? Arguably what Rick introduces to Crossroads has a more profound effect on most of the kids than any religious teaching-in other words, be good and interested in each other.

 

Drugs

·      Descriptions of drugs and Perry’s descent into serious drug misuse very well described and even the description of Becky when she is horribly stoned is well described.

·      The effects of drugs and paranoia is well described.

 

Negatives

·      Over- long and rather petered out at the end possibly in preparation for the next two volumes of the trilogy.

 

Scores

AA7.5

SC 7.5

CB 8.2

MW 7.0

CW 7.75

MT  8.5

JH 7.5

RV 8.5

 

 

Friday 4 February 2022

Cloud Cuckoo Land - Anthony Doerr

Andrew had high expectations of this book as he’d enjoyed All the Light We Cannot See and the sense of place in About Grace. What he was hoping for was a work of great imagination and scope, with beautiful imagery that would take him on a journey - a magical mystery tour.

There are 6 main characters in 3 main storylines - Omeir & Anna in the 15th century, Zeno & Seymour in the 20th and 21st, and Konstance on a spaceship in the 22nd – plus Aethon forever travelling in the ether of time. Perhaps Diogenes’ manuscript is also a character.

 

And there are myriad connections between people and books and libraries and owls and oxen and centuries and plants and trees. Plus links between names like Arkady/Arcadia, Konstance/Constantinople, and Trustyfriend. 

 

Doerr dedicated the book to librarians and said it was his attempt at a “literary-sci-fi-mystery-young-adult-historical-morality novel”.

 

Andrew thought it was a fabulous fable, full of wonder, a beautiful jigsaw of a book whose disparate pieces fitted brilliantly together. A beautifully woven tale about the need to look after the Earth and each other. 

 

Not everyone in BBBC agreed.

 

 

With Aethon, soaring high above the clouds

 

Andrew, Steve, Richard, MarkW really enjoyed this book. It does require the reader to accept the magical world of Doerr’s story, but they all felt pulled into his world and engaged by the characters, and looked forward to picking up the book. 

 

Andrew and MarkT found the stories of Anna and Omeir beautifully written particularly how Omeir’s grandfather cared for him. Andrew liked the surprises with the spaceship being on the ground, Seymour with his owl windows, wanting to reveal the world as it really is, back to his angry environmentalist beginnings railing against the dodgy tech giant, and how the tension built towards the end. And the brilliant ideas such as Library Day, writing to every Rex Browning in England, Ilium as the nasty tech giant, and Zeno’s realisation at the end that the gaps in the story didn’t matter because the children’s imagination would do the rest.

 

ChrisB loved the Greek stuff, enjoyed the story of the book, loved the different places and times and thought it hung together well. He couldn’t stop reading it, even at bedtime, and it will stay with him for a long time. It was clever as it only resolved at the end, the sci-fi part was convincing as was the terribleness of war. He enjoyed the personalisation of the stories of Anna and Omeir on opposing sides. 

 

Steve loved the book, the twists in the strands of yarn and the links between them. It reminded him of David Mitchell’s Cloud Atlas, and he thought it was better than All the Light We Cannot See. Each storyline had its gripping individual qualities, particularly Zeno with his quietly tragic childhood, and his slow life shovelling snow until awakened by his recollections of the text that Rex introduced him to. He also enjoyed the rich and interesting supporting cast – a real achievement to keep this whole cast up in the air throughout the book. But for him it was Seymour’s story that most gripped and resonated - a tale of the 21st century: sensitive to the damage we are causing to our environment but not knowing how to channel it, and accentuated by his discovery of, relationship with and eventual tragic demise of Trustyfriend. So sad, so believable.  


Richard 
really liked the multiple story lines, the great sweep of the overall story and all the different characters held his interest. Some lovely turns of phrase and some lovely ideas. Doerr’s love of books and of libraries matches Richard’s (and MarkT’s) own and came through strongly, and the major descriptive passages (eg the transportation of the cannon to the walls of Istanbul) were superb. All the children had such rich fantasy lives. Doerr is very good on environmental damage, especially from the perspective of an autistic child, and very good on the logistics of sieges, and of moving huge armies.

 

Both Marks found the Constantinople part brilliantly written, with Omeir and Anna their favourite characters. For MarkW, the death of Anna probably the most moving episode of the book. Seymour’s early childhood and Zeno’s episode in Korea were particularly good, and he felt Doerr’s skilful writing made you care about the owls and oxen as characters too, as did Steve. MarkT was moved by Seymour and his owl and despite hating sci-fi grew to enjoy the Argos journey.  John also enjoyed and got deeply involved in the stories of Anna and Omeir, and the troubled life of Zeno Ninis, his fraught childhood and later life, but most particularly his love for Rex and all that flowed from that unrequited love. 

ChrisW did like many of the themes with Constance on the spaceship - they were thought-provoking and could have formed the basis of a book in its own right. The storyline about climate change, global warming, the decay of humanity was good and explained the need for Argos to boldly go to a new planet 659 years away. Seed banks, food printers, and the virtual reality Atlas library were interesting concepts as well as in a different storyline the use of Seymour whilst in rehab by the Ilium Corporation to edit out unpalatable activity captured by aerial photography.

 

 

All a bit cuckoo

 

However, for John, this book was a salutary warning that if you enjoyed an author’s earlier books it is no guarantee you will enjoy or even appreciate one of their later works. He saw it as an interesting collection of short stories ingeniously woven together, but in a way that was overly complicated and therefore not a satisfying read.  Not a book he would recommend.

John and ChrisW both felt it read as an authorial indulgence trying to weave a collection of stories together in a rather ingenious (or over-engineered) way.  Some ancient text being the possible common link between the stories or that many of the characters were facing imminent death at some point in their stories wasn’t enough. John pointed out Diogenes didn’t write the sort of stuff Doerr has him write in this book so why pick a real writer and give him a made-up book? He particularly disliked the spaceship part.

 

The book didn’t appeal to ChrisW at all - confusing, overlong, self-indulgent and followed a typical theme nowadays of taking a number of storylines and mixing them all up with a thread only being detectable at the end. He found the story of Seymour becoming an urban terrorist and being groomed online rather facile. He enjoyed the Constantinople parts, but felt that whole section of the book was simply about how the Diogenes scroll got to Urbino to then be referred to in the present day storyline. Some interesting themes but many unanswered questions.


Despite finding it 
a skilful, clever book, MarkW didn’t find it particularly memorable and thought it lacked substance with the gradual linking of the plots through the text ingenious but less successful. The main plot looked like science fiction but turned out not to be as they were still on the ground, and he was unsure of the purpose of the big scam but not sure if it mattered – was Ilium doing it for the government? It felt a bit Cloud Cuckoo Land, unrealistic. And it took him time to get used to the short chapters. 

 

MarkT loved All the Light We Cannot See so much that he bought the hardback of Cloud Cuckoo Land rather than the usual Kindle download but found the start bitty and confusing and hard to get going with all the different stories. It got better as he got to know the characters and he started to enjoy it, but found the short chapters and sense of time confusing and never quite got the one-page old bits.

 

Steve felt Doerr tried to cover too grand a scope of issues and there were too many unbelievable factors crowding in as the book reached its climax. What, for example, was the true reason for faking the Argos voyage? Something vague about a secret plot to conceal the true magnitude of the catastrophe about to engulf Earth?  And just how far can a man in his 80s sprint with a backpack in a few rings of a phone?

Richard felt the start was slowish and when he was half-way through, that the main characters all had the same voice, but they then started to separate out better. He also wondered why the book was written – the two Constantinople stories were excellent, but their main purpose seemed to be to enable the book to be discovered and then taken to Italy. And Zeno’s purpose was to translate it. And Konstance’s purpose was to continue that telling of the same story, so it goes through the generations.



This Land is our Land

 

Andrew thought Doerr gave us a glimpse in the spaceship of our forthcoming metaverse - with all the teenagers on their Perambulators in their quarters but brought together in the library through their Vizers - all moving around and talking to each other, exploring books and places and playing games. MarkT pointed out that AI is only as good as its programmers.

 

Andrew also thought that the ending when Aethon realises he appreciates his sheep and the simple things in life more than the utopia he has sought, may have been a hint that we should abandon our consumptive lifestyle and concentrate on caring for our planet in the here and now – perhaps keeping the manuscript safe is a metaphor for our need to do the same for the Earth (and each other). Perhaps the link between Diogenes’ book The Wonders Beyond Thule and Qaanaaq in Greenland (formerly known as Thule or New Thule) was also a hint that Greenland might soon be one of the few habitable places on earth? “The world as it is is enough.” might be the message of the book.

 

 

Printed food for thought

 

Why pick a real writer like Diogenes and give him a made-up book? - JH

Who were the 49 other inhabitants of the island? - CW
How was Constance pregnant? - CW
Was it a virus? - CW
Had humankind been totally destroyed? - CW

What was the point of the experiment with Argos? - MW

Did Seymour actually kill Zeno? - MW

Life on Argos – what was real? - MT

Was the virus on board a sham? - MT

Why was the Argos still on the ground? - RV 

Did Google used convicts to test the original? – SC

And just how far can a man in his 80s sprint with a backpack in a few rings of a phone? - SC 

 

Bath, England, a week before Christmas, 2021

 

And to end on a topical note, Steve commented that the day he read the passage where Konstance’s friend Omicron was introduced, the name of the currently rampant Covid variant seemed to enter the general media conversation. That was only three weeks ago. 

 

 

Scores

AA – 10

CW – 5

CB – 9

MW – 8

JH – 5.5

SC – 9

MT – 7

RV – 8.5

WM – get well soon